Ma ka pale a ma ke ola, ua ʻike ʻo ia i ka leʻaleʻa, ka inaina, ka hewa, ka mahalo, nā ʻano aloha a pau - aloha, makuahine, kaikamahine, kaikuahine, aloha. A ʻo ka slogan o ka moʻo i kaulana ai ua lilo ia i mea like me ka credo: "Aia ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ma kahi kokoke" ... Manaʻo ʻo Gillian Anderson i ka hele ʻana o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo.
"Ke noʻonoʻo nei au pehea kona lōʻihi?" ʻO ia ka manaʻo mua i komo i loko o koʻu manaʻo i koʻu ʻike ʻana iā ia e hele ana i kahi papaʻaina o kahi hale ʻaina Pākē ma ke kūlanakauhale ʻo Lākana i pani ʻia iā mākou, kahi aʻu e kali nei iā ia. ʻAʻole, ʻoiaʻiʻo, pehea kona lōʻihi? ʻO 160 knm koʻu, a ʻoi aku kona pōkole ma mua oʻu. 156? 154? Maliʻa liʻiliʻi. Akā ma kekahi ʻano ... liʻiliʻi nani.
ʻAʻohe mea i loko mai kahi ʻīlio liʻiliʻi, e like me kou ʻike, he ʻīlio a hiki i ka wā ʻelemakule. Nānā maikaʻi ʻo ia i kona mau makahiki he 51, a ʻaʻole ʻike ʻia ka hoʻāʻo ʻana i ka rejuvenation. ʻAʻole hiki ke ʻike ʻia kona unahi maoli ma ka pale: ʻo kāna ʻelele ʻo Scully i The X-Files, ʻo Kauka Milburn i ka Sex Education, a ʻo Margaret Thatcher iā ia iho ma The Crown — nā ʻano ikaika like ʻole, nā ʻano ʻoniʻoni like ʻole ʻaʻole ʻoe manawa e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ka ʻikepili kino Gillian Anderson.
ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka ʻaoʻao Anglo-Saxon chiseled, ka helehelena oval maikaʻi loa a me ke kala ʻokoʻa o nā maka - hina hina me nā freckles ʻeleʻele ma ka iris.
Akā, i kēia manawa, ke noho ʻo ia i mua oʻu me kahi kīʻaha, e like me kāna ʻōlelo ʻana, ʻo ka "tea English maʻemaʻe" (ka waiu mua i ninini ʻia, a laila wale nō ke kī ponoʻī), manaʻo wau e pili ana i kāna diminutiveness. Ma luna o nā pono e hāʻawi ai. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo kēlā me kēia kāne i loko o kāna hui e manaʻo nei he meʻe, a he poʻo nui kēia no ka wahine a me ka hoʻowalewale e hoʻopunipuni.
Ma keʻano laulā, hoʻoholo wau e hoʻomaka me ka nīnau i hiki mai i koʻu manaʻo. ʻOiai paha, he wahine ma luna o 50 a he makuahine o nā keiki ʻekolu, ʻo ka hiapo nona ka makahiki 26, he kuleana e kāhāhā iā ia.
Psychologies: Gillian, ua male ʻelua ʻoe, ma ke kolu o ka moʻolelo ua hānau ʻia kāu mau keiki kāne ʻelua. A i kēia manawa ua noho ʻoe i kahi pilina hauʻoli no 4 mau makahiki…
Gillian Anderson: ʻAe, ʻoi aku ka lōʻihi o koʻu mau male ʻana.
No laila, makemake wau e ʻike mai iā ʻoe - pehea ka ʻokoʻa o ka pilina o ke kanaka makua mai nā pilina ma mua?
Aia ka pane ma ka nīnau. No ka mea, ua oo lakou. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ua ʻike maoli ʻoe i kāu mea e pono ai mai ke kanaka, a ua mākaukau no ka mea e pono ai ʻo ia i kahi mea mai iā ʻoe. I koʻu wā i haʻalele ai me ka makua kāne o nā keikikāne (ka mea kālepa ʻo Mark Griffiths, ka makuakāne o nā keiki kāne a Anderson, ʻo Oscar 14 makahiki a me Felix 12 makahiki. makemake wau e ʻike i kahi hoa e hiki mai ana a me kaʻu mea e pono ai e ʻike.
ʻAʻole kūkākūkā ʻia ka lua. ʻO ka mea mua i makemake ʻia, ma aneʻi hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i nā ʻae. ʻO ia hoʻi, inā ʻike ʻoe ʻaʻole pili ke kanaka, no ka laʻana, i ʻekolu mau helu mai ka pono maoli, a laila hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa kahi pilina, akā ʻaʻole ʻoe e hauʻoli iā lākou. A ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ka hui ʻana i kēia mau papa inoa ua kōkua nui iaʻu i koʻu hālāwai ʻana me Peter A ʻae, ua hui mākou no 4 mau makahiki.
Ua pilikia au i ka weliweli. ʻOiaʻiʻo he manawa lōʻihi. Mai ka wā ʻōpiopio
A he aha ka mea ma kāu papa inoa o nā pono koi ma kahi mua?
Mahalo i ka wahi pilikino o kēlā me kēia o kākou - ke kino a me ka naʻau. Ma keʻano laulā, makemake wau i kēia manawa ua emi kekahi mau maʻamau i nā pilina i pono e mālama mua ʻia. Eia kekahi laʻana, ʻaʻole māua ʻo Peter e noho pū. Lilo kā mākou mau hālāwai i mea kūikawā, hoʻokuʻu ʻia nā pilina mai ka hana maʻamau. Loaʻa iā mākou kahi koho - i ka manawa e hui ai a pehea ka lōʻihi e haʻalele ai.
ʻAʻohe nīnau e like me: e kuʻu Akua, pehea inā e hoʻopuehu mākou, pehea mākou e kaʻana like ai i ka hale? A makemake wau e hoʻomaka wau e nalo iā Peter inā ʻaʻole mākou e ʻike kekahi i kekahi no kekahi mau lā. ʻO wai ma ka male maʻamau i kamaʻāina i kēia? Akā, ʻo ka mea hoihoi loa, ʻo ia ka manaʻo hauʻoli i loaʻa iaʻu ke ʻike au i nā pālule a me nā pūkini i hoʻolei ʻia ma ka papahele o ka hale o Peter. Hehi mālie wau ma luna o lākou, no ka mea - hooray! ʻAʻole kaʻu hana ke hana i kekahi mea e pili ana i ia mea.
A i koʻu koho ʻia ʻana no Thatcher ma ke kau ʻehā o The Crown, ua ʻae koke mākou i ka mahele ʻana o kēia wahi: ʻAʻole au e nānā i ka palapala, ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo e pili ana i ke ʻano o ka kākau ʻana, a ʻo Peter ka. ʻaʻole kūkākūkā i kaʻu hana. Ua hoʻokuʻu wau iaʻu iho mai nā kuleana aʻu i manaʻo ai he mea hana, hoʻokau ʻia mai waho. Mai nā kuleana koho maoli.
ʻO ia wale nō kekahi manawa ma waho o ka pilina – he mau makahiki paha, a ma mua paha o koʻu neʻe maoli ʻana mai ka pilina a i ka hui ʻana – ua loaʻa ka hopena maikaʻi iaʻu: Ua maopopo iaʻu ke ʻano o ke ʻano ʻino o ka pilina aʻu i komo ai. A i nā manawa a pau - mai ke kulanui, i koʻu pilina koʻikoʻi a lōʻihi me ka wahine. ʻAʻole pili kēia hiʻohiʻona inā he heterosexual a male kāne paha ka pilina.
A i koʻu hihia, ʻo ia wale nō ka hui pū ʻana o ko mākou ola, hana ʻia kahi para-capsule kahi aʻu i ʻeha ai. I kekahi manawa e hoʻouka kaua.
Hoʻouka weliweli?
ʻAe, ʻae, ua loaʻa iaʻu i ka hoʻouka kaua. ʻOiaʻiʻo he manawa lōʻihi. Mai ka wā ʻōpiopio. I kekahi manawa hoʻi mai lākou i koʻu wā makua.
Maopopo iā ʻoe ke kumu o lākou?
ʻAe… He makuahine a me koʻu makua kāne kupaianaha. Kūlana - ma ke ʻano he makua a ma ke ʻano he kanaka. Akā paʻa loa. ʻElua oʻu mau makahiki i ko mākou neʻe ʻana mai Michigan a i Lākana, makemake koʻu makuakāne e aʻo ma ke kula kiʻiʻoniʻoni ʻo London, aia iā ia kahi hale hana hope.
Ua ulu au ma Lākana, a laila hoʻi koʻu mau mākua i USA, i Michigan, i Grand Rapids. He kūlanakauhale kūpono, akā ma hope o Lākana, me he mea lā iaʻu he panalāʻau, lohi, paʻa. A he ʻōpio wau. A he mea pono e hoʻololi i ke kaiapuni hou, a ʻike ʻoe iā ʻoe iho i ka paʻakikī o kahi ʻōpio.
Ua hānau ʻia koʻu kaikaina a me koʻu kaikuahine, hele ka manaʻo o mama a me koʻu makuakāne iā lāua. ʻO nā mea a pau i loko oʻu i kū'ē i ka honua a puni iaʻu. A i kēia manawa he apo pepeiao koʻu i kuʻu ihu, kahi au i ka lauoho mai koʻu poʻo i loko o nā ʻāpana, he aniline pink Mohawk, ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO ka nihilism holoʻokoʻa, nā lāʻau āpau āu e loaʻa ai. ʻAʻole wau e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā lole ʻeleʻele wale nō.
He punk wau. Ua hoʻolohe au i ka punk rock, hoʻokūkū i ke kaiapuni kahi, ma ke kumumanaʻo, pono wau e hoʻāʻo e hui - hoʻokuʻi iā ʻoukou āpau, ʻokoʻa wau. Ma mua o ka puka ʻana, hopu ʻia wau a me koʻu hoaaloha - ua hoʻolālā mākou e hoʻopiha i nā puka kī o ke kula me ka epoxy i hiki ʻole i kekahi ke komo i ke kakahiaka, hopu ʻia mākou e ke kiaʻi pō.
Hoʻoikaika ʻo Māmā a hoʻohuli iaʻu e hele i kahi psychotherapist. A ua hana ia: Ua manaʻo wau e ʻimi ana au i koʻu ala, ʻo ka mea nui ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu kahi e neʻe ai, ʻo kaʻu mea i ʻike ai iaʻu iho a ʻo wai wau i ka wā e hiki mai ana: he tunnel ʻeleʻele wale nō. No laila ka hoʻouka kaua. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo Pāpā e hiki iaʻu ke lilo i mea hana keaka. Ma ke kumumanaʻo.
No ke aha, ʻaʻole ʻoe i makemake?
ʻAʻole, ʻo ia wale nō ka manaʻo o ke kanaka e pili ana i kona helehelena, deforms ia me ke aloha ʻole, ʻaʻole makaʻu i ka lilo ʻana i mea ʻino mai ka manaʻo o ka maʻamau i ʻae ʻia, hiki i kēia kanaka ke reincarnate. Ua hele au i kahi hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma ko mākou kūlanakauhale a ʻike koke wau: ʻo ia nō.
Aia ʻoe ma ke kahua, ʻoiai ma kahi hana liʻiliʻi, akā ke kau nei ka manaʻo iā ʻoe. ʻOiaʻiʻo, makemake au i ka nānā ʻana ma mua o ka hoʻololi. Akā, pono au e hoʻi i ka lāʻau lapaʻau. ʻOiai e hana ana ma The X-Files, no ka laʻana.
Akā, no ke aha? ʻO kou kūleʻa ʻole ia, ʻo ka hana nui mua, kaulana ...
ʻAe, ʻae, laki wau i ko Chris Carter koi ʻana e pāʻani wau iā Scully i kēlā manawa. Ke hoʻomākaukau nei au e hana i ka hale keaka, ʻoi aku ka hoihoi iaʻu ma mua o ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ʻoi aku hoʻi i ka TV. A laila laki kēlā!
ʻAʻole like nā moʻolelo i kēia manawa - he kiʻiʻoniʻoni maoli. David (David Duchovny — Anderson's X-Files hoa. — Ed.) ua hoku mua me Brad Pitt i ka sensational «Kaleponi», e hoomakaukau ana no ka stellar hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni a lilo i Mulder me ka hoihoi ole, akā, au i ke ala a puni: ʻAe, ʻoi aku kaʻu uku i ka makahiki ma mua o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā mākua no 10!
He 24 au makahiki. ʻAʻole au i mākaukau no ka ʻuʻuku i koi ʻia e ka hōʻike, ʻaʻole hoʻi no ka mea e hiki mai ana. Ma ka hoʻonohonoho, hālāwai wau me Clyde, he mea hoʻolālā hana kōkua (Clyde Klotz - ke kāne mua a Anderson, ka makuakāne o kāna kaikamahine Piper. - Approx. ed.).
Ua male māua. Ua hānau ʻia ʻo Piper i ka makahiki 26. Pono nā mea kākau e hoʻopuka i kahi ʻaihue malihini iā Scully e hōʻoia i koʻu hele ʻana. Ua hele au i ka hana 10 mau lā ma hope o ka hānau ʻana, akā pono lākou e kākau hou i ka palapala a nalo wau i ka papahana, paʻa loa - hoʻokahi ʻāpana i nā lā ʻewalu. A he 24 mau ʻāpana o ka makahiki, 16 hola i ka lā.
Ua moku au ma waena o Piper a me ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. I kekahi manawa, me he mea lā ua noho hou au i loko o kēlā ʻeleʻele ʻeleʻele, me ka uē ʻana i hoʻihoʻi ʻia e nā mea hana make-up i ka make-up i ʻelima mau manawa i ka hoʻololi, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻōki. A he kumakaia wau - ʻo ia ka mea i hewa no ka uhai ʻana i ka papa hana, no ka wā lōʻihi, no ka hoʻopau ʻana i ka hoʻolālā. A eia kekahi, ua momona au.
ʻO ka hewa kekahi o nā mea e hoʻohālike iā mākou. Maikaʻi ka ʻike
E hoʻolohe, akā maopopo loa - he pēpē kāu ...
Ua like ʻoe me kaʻu kaikamahine. Ua haʻi aku wau iā Piper e pili ana i kēlā manawa - pehea koʻu manaʻo hewa i mua ona a i mua o ka hui: haʻalele mau ʻia ʻo ia a hāʻule ka hana. A ʻo ia, he kaikamahine o kēia wā, ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ua kau ʻia ka manaʻo o ka hewa ma luna o mākou e nā kūlana koʻikoʻi kahiko a pono mākou e hoʻokuʻu aku iā ia ...
Me kēia ʻano loina hou, e ʻōlelo ana e hoʻokau ʻia ka manaʻo o ka hewa, ʻaʻole wau ʻae iki. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ua hewa wau: ua uhaki au i ka ʻaelike, makemake i ke keiki, hoʻokuʻu i nā mea āpau. Akā ʻo koʻu ola kēia, ʻaʻole wau makemake e mōhai aku no ka pono o ka moʻo. ʻElua mau ʻoiaʻiʻo i hui pū ʻia: ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo o nā makemake o ka moʻo a me koʻu ola.
ʻAe, hiki mai. Hiki i kekahi mau ʻoiaʻiʻo ke hui pū, akā ʻaʻole ia e kāpae i kēlā me kēia mai ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO ka ʻae ʻana i kēia e lilo i kanaka makua. A me ka noʻonoʻo ʻana iaʻu iho i kahi kūlana - ua momona maoli wau.
A laila, a me nā makahiki a pau o ka hana ma The X-Files, ua haehae ʻia au mai ke kiʻi ʻana i kaʻu kaikamahine. A ua lilo kaʻu kaikamahine i ka hapalua o kona wā kamaliʻi ma luna o ka mokulele ma ke ʻano he "keiki me ka ʻole o nā pākeke", aia kekahi ʻano o nā mea kaʻa - lele ʻo ia i kona makuakāne i koʻu haʻalele ʻana no ka pana ʻana, a i ʻole iaʻu no ka pana. ʻO nā mea a pau, ua paʻakikī. Akā naʻe, ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au ʻo ka hewa kekahi o nā mea e hoʻohālikelike ai iā mākou. Maikaʻi ka ʻike.
A e hana ʻoe i kahi ʻokoʻa no kāu mau keiki?
Ua noʻonoʻo wau e pili ana i ia - inā pono e pale aku iā lākou mai nā ʻike traumatic, e hoʻāʻo e aʻo iā lākou e pili ana i nā hewa, e pili ana i nā hana a lākou e mihi maoli ai ... I nā makahiki i hala iho nei, ua ʻike wau i kēia me Piper. He 26 ʻo ia, akā ʻaʻole ʻo ia i neʻe i waho o ko mākou hale - aia kahi haʻahaʻa ma lalo, ua hoʻolako mākou iā ia me kahi keʻena ma laila. A no laila makemake ʻoe, ʻike ʻoe, e alakaʻi - me koʻu makemake i ka mana. Akā ke paʻa nei au ʻO kona ola kona ola.
A ʻae, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻoʻiʻo he mea pono ke pale aku i nā keiki mai nā ʻike ʻeha. I ka wā e make ana koʻu kaikunāne, ua hele au iā ia e hoʻopau i kāna mau pule hope me ia. A ua hoʻoholo ʻo Piper, ʻo ia he 15, ʻaʻole e kaupalena iā ia iho i Skype a hele pū me aʻu. ʻAʻohe kamaʻilio no nā keikikāne, liʻiliʻi loa lākou. Akā ua hoʻoholo ʻo Piper pēlā. Ua kokoke ʻo ia iā ʻAʻarona, pono ʻo ia e ʻōlelo aloha iā ia. Eia kekahi…
ʻIke ʻoe, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo i kahi ʻoi aku ka maluhia, ʻoiai, ʻōlelo paha kekahi, hauʻoli ka haʻalele ʻana. He 30 wale nō ʻo ʻAʻarona, e hoʻopau ana ʻo ia i kāna dissertation ma ka psychology ma Stanford, a laila - ka lolo maʻi maʻi ... ʻAe, no mama, no papa, no mākou a pau he pōʻino. Akā ma kekahi ʻano… ua hiki iā ʻAʻarona ke hoʻohuli iā mākou e ʻae i ka hiki ʻole.
ʻO kēia ka mea nui iaʻu i ka Buddhism - e hōʻoiaʻiʻo iā ʻoe ʻaʻole e kūʻē i ka hiki ʻole. A ʻaʻole kēia e pili ana i ka haʻahaʻa o kēlā me kēia lā, akā no ka naʻauao hohonu - e pili ana i ka hoʻopau ʻole ʻana i ka ikehu ma nā mea ma waho o kou mana, akā e kālele ana i nā mea e pili ana iā ʻoe. Akā pono mākou e hana i kēia ʻano koho i kēlā me kēia lā.
Hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi iā mākou i ka koho i mea nui loa iā ʻoe?
E hoʻi i Lākana, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ma hope o ʻelua mau makahiki ma USA. I ka pau ʻana o kaʻu kiʻi ʻana i nā kau nui o The X-Files. Hoʻopili ʻia a neʻe pū me Piper i Lākana. No ka mea, ua maopopo iaʻu: nele mau au i kahi home maoli. ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo aia wau ma ka home mai koʻu makahiki he 11, mai ka manawa a mākou i haʻalele ai i ko mākou hale hoʻohenehene ma Harringey ma ʻĀkau ʻo Lākana ... aia ka hale ʻauʻau ma ka pā, hiki iā ʻoe ke noʻonoʻo?
ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo ma ka home ma Grand Rapids me koʻu mau mākua, ʻaʻole ma Chicago, ʻaʻole ma New York, ʻaʻole ma Los Angeles. I koʻu hiki ʻana i Lākana wale nō. Akā naʻe, ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo ʻaʻole makemake wau iā ʻAmelika. Aloha wau. Nui loa ka ʻōlelo hoʻopā i loko o ia mea…
Ua ʻike ʻoe, e Goose Island, kēlā hale ʻaina ma Kikako kahi aʻu i hana ai ma ke ʻano he kahu hānai ma hope o ke kula keaka, ua kapa ʻia kekahi o kāna mau pia "Jillian." I ka hanohano iaʻu. Ua kapa ʻia ʻo Belgian Pale Ale ma mua, akā i kēia manawa ua kapa ʻia ʻo Gillian. ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hōʻailona e like me ka Emmy a i ʻole ka Golden Globe, pololei?