"He poʻe keiki mākou i makemake e hoʻopakele i ka honua, akā ʻaʻole ia i hana"

Nā manaʻo noʻonoʻo: Ua kamaʻilio ʻoe me Linda Carter ma mua o kou hoʻomaka ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni? ma hope o nā mea a pau, ʻo ia ka mea mua e pāʻani i ke ʻano o Wonder Woman i nā makahiki 70, a ua lilo ʻo ia i mea hoʻomana no nā mea he nui.

ʻO Patti Jenkins: ʻO Linda ka mea mua aʻu i kelepona ai i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai ka papahana. ʻAʻole au i makemake e hana i kahi mana hou o Wonder Woman a i ʻole ka Wonder Woman hou, ʻo ia ka Wonder Woman aʻu i makemake ai a ʻo ia ke kumu i makemake ai au i ka moʻolelo Amazon Diana ponoʻī. ʻO ia a me nā mele mele — ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea aʻu i makemake ai i ka wā mua, noʻu ua hele pū lāua i ka lima — Wonder Woman lāua ʻo Linda, nāna i hoʻokani i kāna hana ma ke kīwī.

ʻO ka mea i ʻike nui ʻia ka Wonder Woman iaʻu, ʻo ia kona ikaika a akamai, akā lokomaikaʻi a mehana, nani a hiki ke hoʻopili ʻia. Ua kaulana kona ʻano no nā makahiki he nui, no ka mea, ua hana ʻo ia no nā kaikamahine i ka mea a Superman i hana ai no nā keikikāne - ʻo ia ka mea a mākou i makemake ai e lilo! Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au, ʻoiai ma ke kahua pāʻani, ua noʻonoʻo wau iaʻu iho ʻo Wonder Woman, ua ikaika loa wau i hiki iaʻu ke hakakā i nā hooligans ma oʻu iho. He manaʻo kupanaha.

He ʻokoʻa ka Wonder Woman iaʻu mai nā superhero ʻē aʻe i kona manaʻo. Aia ʻo ia ma ʻaneʻi e hoʻomaikaʻi i ka poʻe, he hiʻohiʻona maikaʻi loa ia, ʻaʻole naʻe ʻo ia ma ʻaneʻi e hakakā, e hakakā i ka hewa - ʻae, hana ʻo ia i nā mea āpau no ka pale ʻana i ke kanaka, akā manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo ia i ke aloha a me ka mea nui. a ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, i ka nani, a i ka manawa like he mea ikaika loa. ʻO ia ke kumu i kāhea aku ai au iā Linda.

ʻO wai ka mea i ʻoi aku ma mua o Linda Carter ponoʻī e hāʻawi mai iā mākou i ka ʻōlelo aʻo e pili ana i ka mālama ʻana i ka hoʻoilina o kahi ʻano āna i kūkulu ai, ma nā ʻano he nui? Hāʻawi ʻo ia iā mākou i nā ʻōlelo aʻo he nui, akā eia kaʻu e hoʻomanaʻo nei. Ua noi mai ʻo ia iaʻu e haʻi iā Gal ʻaʻole ʻo ia i pāʻani i ka Wonder Woman, ʻo Diane wale nō ʻo ia. A he mea koʻikoʻi kēia, he ʻano ʻo Diana, ʻoiai me kahi ʻano maikaʻi o nā ʻano, akā ʻo kāu kuleana kēia, a hoʻoponopono ʻoe i nā pilikia me nā mana i hāʻawi ʻia iā ia.

Ua ola ʻo Gal Gadot i kāu mau manaʻo?

Ua ʻoi aku ʻo ia ma mua o lākou. Ua huhū loa au i ka hiki ʻole iaʻu ke loaʻa i nā huaʻōlelo malimali i lawa nona. ʻAe, hana nui ʻo ia, ʻae, hiki iā ia ke hānau keiki a hana i nā hana hoʻohiwahiwa i ka manawa like!

ʻOi aku kēia ma mua o ka lawa! A pehea ke ʻano o ka hoʻokumu ʻana i kahi pūʻali koa holoʻokoʻa o nā wahine Amazon?

Ua ikaika loa ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana a i kekahi manawa paʻakikī, he mea paʻakikī ia i ke ʻano kino o kaʻu mau wahine keaka. He aha ka mea e pono ai ka holo, aʻo me nā mea kaumaha. Ua aʻo lākou i ka martial arts, ʻai i ka 2000-3000 kcal i kēlā me kēia lā - pono lākou e loaʻa koke ke kaumaha! Akā ua kākoʻo nui lākou i kekahi i kekahi - ʻaʻole kēia ka mea āu e ʻike ai ma ka noho ʻana o nā kāne, akā ʻike wau i kaʻu mau Amazons e hele wāwae ana a puni ke kahua a hilinaʻi ma luna o ke koʻokoʻo - ua ʻeha paha ko lākou kua, a ʻeha paha ko lākou mau kuli!

He mea ʻē aʻe ka hana ʻana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻo ia ka wahine mua i alakaʻi i kahi blockbuster miliona miliona. Ua ʻike anei ʻoe i kēia kaumaha o ke kuleana? Ma hope o nā mea a pau, ʻoiaʻiʻo, pono ʻoe e hoʻololi i nā lula o ka pāʻani o ka ʻoihana kiʻiʻoniʻoni nui ...

ʻAe, ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo, ʻaʻohe oʻu manawa e noʻonoʻo ai, e ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO kēia ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻu i makemake ai e hana no ka manawa lōʻihi loa. ʻO kaʻu mau hana mua i alakaʻi iaʻu i kēia kiʻi.

Ua manaʻo wau i ke kaumaha o ke kuleana a me ke koʻikoʻi, akā ʻoi aku ka nui o ka manaʻo ʻo ka kiʻiʻoniʻoni e pili ana i ka Wonder Woman i loko ona iho he mea nui loa, no ka mea he nui kāna mau mea pā. Hoʻonoho wau iaʻu iho i ka pahuhopu o ka ʻoi aku o nā manaʻolana a me nā manaʻolana e pili ana i kēia kiʻi. Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole i loli kēia kaomi mai ka lā aʻu i kau inoa ai no kēia papahana a hiki i ka pule i hala.

ʻO kaʻu mea i noʻonoʻo ai ʻo ka makemake wau e hana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni a e hōʻoia i kaʻu e hana nei ʻo ia ka mea maikaʻi loa e hiki iaʻu ke hana. I nā manawa a pau aʻu i noʻonoʻo ai: hāʻawi wau i kaʻu mea āpau a i ʻole hiki iaʻu ke hana maikaʻi aʻe? A i nā pule ʻelua i hala iho nei ua manaʻo wau: ua pau kaʻu hana ma kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni? A i kēia manawa, boom, hiki koke mai au i kēia ao kahi a lākou e nīnau mai ai iaʻu i ke ʻano o ke alakaʻi wahine, pehea ke ʻano o ke alakaʻi ʻana i kahi papahana me kahi kālā miliona miliona, pehea ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni ʻO ka hana nui he wahine? ʻO kaʻoiaʻiʻo, ua hoʻomaka wau e noʻonoʻo.

ʻO kēia paha ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻokoʻa i ka wā e paʻi ʻia ai nā hiʻohiʻona me nā koa wahine me ka ʻole o ka pōʻaiapili wahine, ʻoiai ke kūleʻa nei kahi alakaʻi kāne ʻole ...

He mea ʻakaʻaka kāu i ʻike ai, ʻoluʻolu pinepine nā alakaʻi kāne iā lākou iho, a he mea ʻakaʻaka. A ʻike ʻoe i ka mea ʻakaʻaka — hauʻoli nō hoʻi au i ka nānā ʻana o kaʻu mau mea hana keaka (kaʻaka). ʻAʻole wau e hoʻohuli i nā mea a pau a hana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni kahi i ʻike ʻole ʻia ai nā kiʻi.

Manaʻo wau he mea koʻikoʻi ka hiki i ka poʻe hoʻolohe ke pili i nā kiʻi i loaʻa iā lākou ke ʻano o ka mahalo. Manaʻo wau i kekahi manawa e hoʻopaʻa kekahi i kā mākou kamaʻilio ʻana ke kamaʻilio mākou e pili ana i ka umauma o ka Wahine Kamahaʻo, no ka mea, he kamaʻilio ia ma ka moʻo: “E kiʻi kāua i nā kiʻi, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ke ʻano maoli kēia o ka umauma, kūlohelohe! ʻAʻole, he mau torpedoes kēia, akā nani kēia, "a pēlā aku.

Nui nā kamaʻilio ma Hollywood e pili ana i ka liʻiliʻi o nā alakaʻi wahine i hoʻohālikelike ʻia me nā alakaʻi kāne, pehea kou manaʻo? No ke aha kēia hana?

He ʻakaʻaka kēia mau kamaʻilio ʻana. Nui nā wahine ikaika a ikaika ma Hollywood, no laila ʻaʻole wau i ʻike i ke kumu - aia nā wahine ma ke poʻo o nā hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ma waena o nā mea hana, a ma waena o nā mea kākau kiʻi.

ʻO ka mea wale nō i komo i koʻu manaʻo, aia kekahi hanana ma hope o ka hoʻokuʻu ʻia ʻana o Jaws, ma hope o ka hopena pule mua, ua ala mai ka manaʻo e pili ana nā blockbusters a me ko lākou kaulana i nā keikikāne ʻōpio. ʻO kēia wale nō, no ka mea, i koʻu manaʻo, ua kākoʻo nui ʻia a paipai ʻia au, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo ʻaʻole i kākoʻo ʻia. Akā inā makemake nui ka ʻoihana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ka nānā ʻana mai nā keikikāne ʻōpio, ʻo wai lā lākou e hele ai e kiʻi?

I kekahi keiki opio mua paha ke alakaʻi o kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a eia mai kekahi pilikia o ka ʻoihana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ke ʻimi nei lākou i kahi anaina liʻiliʻi loa, a ke hāʻule nei ia i ko mākou manawa. Inā ʻaʻole au e kuhihewa, ʻo 70% o ka pahu pahu o ka honua i kēia mau lā he wahine. No laila, manaʻo wau e hoʻopau i ka hui ʻana o nā mea ʻelua.

No ke aha i emi ai ka uku o na wahine a he oiaio anei? Ua emi anei ka uku o Gal Gadot ma mua o Chris Pine?

ʻAʻole like nā uku. Aia kahi ʻōnaehana kūikawā: uku ʻia nā mea hana ma muli o kā lākou loaʻa mua. Aia nā mea a pau i ka pahu pahu o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, i ka manawa a me pehea lākou i kau inoa ai i ka ʻaelike. Inā hoʻomaka ʻoe e hoʻomaopopo i kēia, e kahaha ʻoe i nā mea he nui. Eia naʻe, ke ʻae nei au, he pilikia nui ke ʻike mākou ʻo ka poʻe a mākou i makemake nui ai i ka pāʻani a mākou i aloha ai no nā makahiki he nui, ua emi ka uku o kā lākou hana, he mea kupanaha. Eia kekahi laʻana,ʻo Jennifer Lawrence ka hōkū nui loa ma ka honua, aʻaʻole i uku ponoʻia kāna hana.

Ua komo ʻoe i ka papahana Wonder Woman no nā makahiki he nui. No ke aha i puka mai ai ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kēia manawa?

ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole au i ʻike a ʻaʻohe oʻu manaʻo he kumu kumu i hoʻololi ʻia ai nā mea a pau, ʻaʻohe manaʻo kipi ma aneʻi. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au ua makemake wau e hana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni, akā ua ʻōlelo lākou ʻaʻohe kiʻi, a laila hoʻouna mai lākou iaʻu i ka palapala a ʻōlelo mai: aia kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni, akā ua hāpai au a ʻaʻole hiki ke hana. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ke kumu ʻaʻole lākou i hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kēlā manawa.

He aha ka mea e loaʻa ai ka nui o nā wahine i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

Pono ʻoe e kūleʻa, kūleʻa pāʻoihana e hoʻomaka me. ʻO ka ʻōnaehana studio, ʻaʻole naʻe, lohi a paʻakikī e hoʻomau i nā loli. No laila ua hoʻomaka maikaʻi nā kahawai e like me Netflix a me Amazon. He mea paʻakikī i nā hui nui ke hoʻololi koke.

Kahaha mau iaʻu hiki iā mākou ke ʻike i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ma nā ʻano āpau a mākou e makemake ai, akā hoʻololi ka kūleʻa pāʻoihana i nā kānaka. Ma laila wale nō lākou e hoʻomaopopo ai ua koi ʻia lākou e hoʻololi, wehe i ko lākou mau maka a ʻike ʻaʻole like ka honua. A ʻo ka mea pōmaikaʻi, ke hoʻomaka nei kēia kaʻina hana.

ʻOiaʻiʻo, he nui kaʻu mau kumu pilikino e kūleʻa ai, e hōʻiliʻili i kahi pahu pahu nui. Akā ma kahi o ka hohonu o koʻu ʻuhane aia kekahi ʻē aʻe - ʻo ka mea i hiki ʻole ke hana i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni, i ʻōlelo ʻia e nā mea a pau ʻaʻohe mea e hiki mai, ʻaʻohe mea makemake e nānā i kēlā kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Manaʻolana wale wau e hiki iaʻu ke hōʻoia i kēia poʻe ua hewa lākou, e hōʻike wau iā lākou i kahi mea a lākou i ʻike ʻole ai. Ua hauʻoli wau i ka hana ʻana me The Hunger Games a me Insurgent. Hauʻoli wau i kēlā me kēia manawa e huki ai ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni e like me kēia i kahi anaina hou i manaʻo ʻole ʻia. Hōʻike kēia i ka hewa o ia mau wānana.

Ma hope o ka hoʻomaka mua o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, e lilo ʻo Gal Gadot i hōkū honua, ʻaʻole ʻoe ka lā mua i kēia ʻoihana, he aha kāu ʻōlelo aʻo i hāʻawi ai a hāʻawi aku paha iā ia?

ʻO kaʻu mea wale nō i ʻōlelo aku ai iā Gal Gadot ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e lilo i Wahine Kupanaha i kēlā me kēia lā, ʻehiku lā o ka pule. Hiki iā ʻoe ke lilo iā ʻoe iho. Ke hopohopo iki nei au i kona wā e hiki mai ana, mai noʻonoʻo i kekahi mea ʻino. ʻAʻohe manaʻo ʻino ma ʻaneʻi. He wahine nani ʻo ia a maikaʻi loa e like me Wonder Woman. Hele māua ʻo ia i Disneyland me kā māua mau keiki i kēia kauwela. I kekahi manawa, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou.

Manaʻo nā makuahine e nānā ana iā ia e manaʻo kā lākou mau keiki e lilo kēia wahine i makua maikaʻi aʻe ma mua o lākou - no laila he "huakaʻi" ʻē aʻe i ke ola nona. Akā i ka manawa like, manaʻo wau he kakaikahi ka poʻe i mākaukau no kēia ma mua o kona, he kanaka, nani, kūlohelohe. Manaʻo wau e hoʻomanaʻo mau ʻo ia he kanaka maʻamau ʻo ia. A ʻaʻole oʻu manaʻo e loaʻa koke iā ia ka maʻi hōkū.

Ma ke kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i ka hoihoi aloha o Wonder Woman: pehea ke ʻano o ka loaʻa ʻana o ke kāne, ka hana ʻana i kahi ʻano i hiki ke lilo i hoa pili nona?

Ke ʻimi nei ʻoe i kahi hoa superhero honua, ke ʻimi mau nei ʻoe i kahi mea kupaianaha a ikaika. E like me Margot Kidder, ka mea i hoʻokani i ka hoaaloha a Superman. He ʻakaʻaka, hoihoi. He aha kaʻu i makemake ai e pili ana i ke ʻano o Steve? He pailaka ʻo ia. Ua ulu au i loko o kahi ʻohana hoʻokele. ʻO kēia kaʻu mea aloha, loaʻa iaʻu kaʻu aloha ponoʻī me ka lani!

Ua kamaʻilio mākou me Chris Pine i nā manawa a pau e pili ana i ko mākou mau keiki a pau e pāʻani ana me nā mokulele a makemake mākou a pau e hoʻopakele i ka honua, akā ʻaʻole i holo. Akā, hana mākou i ka mea hiki iā mākou, a ʻike koke ʻia kēia wahine ma ka ʻaoʻao, nāna e hoʻopakele i ka honua, i kona kahaha. No laila, ʻoiaʻiʻo, hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopakele i ka honua? A i ʻole e hoʻololi. Manaʻo wau ua māʻona ko kākou kaiaulu i ka manaʻo he hiki ʻole ke ʻae ʻia.

Ma ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni Komohana, ʻaʻole pinepine ka hana i ke Kaua Honua Mua. Aia kekahi mau pilikia a i ʻole nā ​​pōmaikaʻi iā ʻoe i kāu hana ʻana ma kēia kumuhana?

Nui kēlā! ʻO ka paʻakikī ʻo ia ka mea maʻamau o nā comics, e like me ka pop e hōʻike ana i kēia a i kēlā au. Hoʻohana mau ʻia kekahi mau paʻi.

Inā loaʻa iā mākou nā 1940s, ke Kaua Honua ʻElua - a ʻike mākou a pau e pili ana i ke Kaua Honua ʻElua - a laila hoʻomaka koke nā clichés i ka pāʻani, a maopopo koke nā mea āpau i ka manawa.

Ua hoʻomaka wau mai ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ua mākaukau wau i ka mōʻaukala o ke Kaua Honua Mua. ʻO ka mea a mākou i makemake ai e pale aku, ʻo ia ka hoʻololi ʻana i kā mākou kiʻiʻoniʻoni i palapala hōʻikeʻike BBC kahi i ʻike ʻia ai nā mea āpau a maopopo i ka mea nānā: "ʻAe, he kiʻiʻoniʻoni mōʻaukala kēia."

Eia kekahi, hōʻike ka kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ka honua fantasy a me ka hui o Lākana. ʻO kā mākou ala e like me kēia: 10% he pop maʻemaʻe, ʻo ke koena he nui i manaʻo ʻole ʻia o ka realism i ke kiʻi. Akā, ke hiki mākou i ke kaua ponoʻī, ma laila ka pupule. ʻO ke Kaua Honua I he moeʻuhane weliweli a he kaua nui loa. Ua hoʻoholo mākou e haʻi i ka lewa ma o nā lole maoli, akā ʻaʻole e komo i nā kikoʻī mōʻaukala o nā hanana maoli.

Ke hana lākou i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni e pili ana i nā superheroes i ke Kaua Honua II, ʻaʻole lākou e hōʻike i nā kahua hoʻomoana - ʻaʻole hiki i ka mea nānā ke hoʻomanawanui. Ua like ia ma ʻaneʻi - ʻaʻole mākou makemake e hōʻike maoli i ka hiki i ka haneli kaukani ka poʻe e make i ka lā hoʻokahi, akā i ka manawa like, hiki i ka mea nānā ke manaʻo. Ua pihoihoi au i ka wā mua i ka paʻakikī o ka hana ma ka lima, akā ua hauʻoli wau, hauʻoli nui i ko mākou hoʻonohonoho ʻana i ka hana i ke Kaua Honua Mua.

He hoʻokele koa kou makuakāne…

ʻAe, a ua hele ʻo ia i nā mea a pau. Ua lilo ʻo ia i pailaka ma muli o ke Kaua Honua II. Makemake ʻo ia e hoʻololi i nā mea no ka maikaʻi. Ua hoʻopau ʻo ia i ka pana ʻana i nā kauhale ma Vietnam. Ua kākau ʻo ia i puke e pili ana i ia mea. Ua puka 'o ia mai ke kula koa me ka "maikai" i mea e lilo ai i mea i lilo ai. ʻAʻole maopopo iā ia, "Pehea wau e lilo ai i mea ʻino? Ua manaʻo wau ʻo wau kekahi o nā mea maikaʻi. ”…

He makaʻu wale nō ke hoʻouna aku nā pūkaua i nā ʻōpio e make.

ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo! ʻO kaʻu mea makemake nui e pili ana i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni superhero, hiki ke lilo i mea hoʻohālikelike. Ua hoʻohana mākou i nā akua ma ka moʻolelo e haʻi i ka moʻolelo o ka heroine a mākou i ʻike ai. ʻIke mākou ʻo wai nā superheroes, ʻike mākou i kā lākou e hakakā nei, akā pilikia ko mākou honua! Pehea e noho ai a nana? ʻAe, inā he kamaliʻi ʻoe, leʻaleʻa paha ke nānā aku, akā ke nīnau nei mākou i ka nīnau: he aha ke ʻano meʻe āu e makemake ai e noho i kēia ao? Pīhoihoi nā akua, ke nānā mai nei iā kākou. Akā ʻo kēia mākou i kēia manawa, pehea ko mākou honua i kēia manawa.

No laila, he mea nui loa iā mākou ka haʻi ʻana i ka moʻolelo o kahi kaikamahine e makemake ana e lilo i koa a hōʻike i ke ʻano maoli o ke ʻano meʻe. No ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana ʻaʻole hiki i kahi mana nui ke hoʻopakele i ko mākou honua, he moʻolelo kēia e pili ana iā mākou iho. ʻO kēia ka moʻomeheu nui o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni iaʻu. Pono kākou a pau e noʻonoʻo hou i ko kākou mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka koa a me ke koa.

Nui nā ʻano heroic like ʻole i ke kiʻi — he poʻe koa lākou a pau. Hāʻawi ʻo Steve iā ia iho no kahi mea ʻoi aku, aʻo ʻo ia iā mākou i kahi haʻawina e pono ai mākou e manaʻoʻiʻo a manaʻolana. A hoʻomaopopo ʻo Diana ʻaʻole hiki i kahi mana kupua ke hoʻopakele iā mākou. He mea nui kā mākou mau hoʻoholo ponoʻī. Pono mākou e hana i hoʻokahi haneli kiʻiʻoniʻoni e pili ana iā ia.