Mai ka nymphet nani mai "Leon" ua hoʻokaʻawale ʻia ʻo ia e nā kuleana he nui, ʻo ka hoʻomaka ʻana o kāna ʻoihana alakaʻi ponoʻī, kahi diploma i ka psychology, kahi Oscar, makuahine. Akā he nui nō hoʻi ka mea like me kēlā keiki 12 makahiki. Me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo o ke keiki, haʻi ʻo ia i ka loli ʻana o kona honua i nā makahiki i hala i mua o ko mākou mau maka.
ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole ʻoe e hāʻawi iā ia i kanakolukumamālima. ʻOiaʻiʻo, nani loa ʻo ia, ʻaʻole hoʻololi ka hāpai ʻana i kāna mau hiʻohiʻona chiseled. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ia ka mea i ʻike ʻia o ka kūleʻa - eia ka Oscar, a me Dior hoʻolaha, a me ka choreographer-kāne kaulana, a me ke keiki kāne ʻelima makahiki maikaʻi, a me ka hoʻomaka mua o ka directorial A Tale of Love and Darkness. ʻae ʻia ma Cannes…
Akā mai ka haʻi ʻana i nā mea a pau I ka manawa like, e holo ana kahi aka o ka huhū ʻaʻole i ʻike ʻia iā ia ma ke alo o Natalie Portman. No ka mea, ʻo ka "nānā ʻōpio ma mua o kou mau makahiki" he mea hoʻomaikaʻi makahiki, aia i kēlā me kēia kanaka ke kuleana e nānā i ko lākou mau makahiki, ʻaʻohe mea e hoʻoikaika e ʻōpio; ʻO ka nani wale nō ka lanakila ʻana i ka loteri genetic, ʻaʻohe pono o ia mea, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻohewa i kekahi ma kona helehelena; Harvard — "ʻAe, ua ʻike ʻoe i ka nui o ka hoʻohaʻahaʻa i loaʻa iaʻu ma laila no koʻu naʻaupō, pehea ka nui o kaʻu e lanakila ai i loko oʻu iho?", A ʻo ke kāne a me kāna keiki ... "ʻO ke aloha kēia. A ʻo ke aloha ʻaʻole ia he lanakila a he uku.
ʻAe, koe wale nō ka Oscar. hiki iā ia ke haʻaheo. Akā ma hope o nā mea a pau, e haʻaheo wale, ʻaʻole e kaena ...
Noho mākou ma ka lanai o kona hōkele ma luna o ka Venetian Lagoon - mamao loa mai ka mokupuni ʻo Lido, kahi i piha ai ka ʻaha kiʻiʻoniʻoni, i loko o ka papahana ʻelua mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni me kāna komo ʻana. He mau lā wale nō ʻo ia ma ʻaneʻi, e kali ana ʻo ia i kāna keiki ʻelua, a i kēia manawa makemake ʻo ia e hoʻolimalima i ka manawa me kāna keiki ma mua o ka hiki ʻana mai o kona kaikunāne a kaikuahine. I kēia manawa, ua emi ka hana i hope no Portman, a he noʻonoʻo ʻo ia - no ka manawa mua paha i kāna moʻolelo biography, ua hiki mai ka manawa e hiki ai iā ia ke nānā i kona ola mai waho, ma waho o ka hustle a me nā papa hana hana. Ma kēia ʻike ʻia ʻaʻole he mea makehewa ka loaʻa ʻana o Portman i kahi diploma no ka psychology - maʻalahi ʻo ia e hoʻonui i kona ʻike pilikino i kahi vein socio-psychological.
Natalie Portman: He mea ʻakaʻaka ke ʻano o ka mālama ʻia ʻana iaʻu e like me kahi mea nawaliwali loa. A hāpai wale wau, ʻaʻole maʻi. He manaʻo koʻu ua nalowale ka hānau ʻana o ko mākou honua i kona ʻano kūlohelohe, ua lilo ia i ʻano mea kūikawā e koi ai i ka mālama kūikawā - ʻo nā mea āpau e pili ana i ka mālama ʻana i ka mea i loaʻa i kēia manawa e like me kahi ʻokoʻa kupaianaha.
Ma keʻano laulā, ʻike wau i nā loli he nui. Ma mua, heʻumi makahiki i hala aku nei, ua makaʻu nā hōkū i ka paparazzi, no ka mea, makemake lākou e hūnā i ko lākou ola pilikino, i kēia manawa ua hilahila lākou i ko lākou nānāʻana, no ka mea, makemake lākou e lilo i poʻe "maʻamau" i nā maka o ka lehulehu, no ka mea, ʻO ke kūlana kiʻekiʻe i loko o kā mākou ʻike maopopo ua lilo i ʻano ʻino. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole pono nā hōkū i ka nānā ʻana i ka lehulehu ma kekahi ʻano ...
He hipa ʻeleʻele wau ma ke ʻano he vegan, i kēia manawa he ʻāpana wale nō kēia o ka neʻe ʻana no ka mālama pono ʻana o ke ʻano, kekahi o nā mea he nui. Ma mua he kūlana koʻikoʻi o ka helehelena, ua hoʻokaʻawale ʻia ka lahilahi, a i kēia manawa, mahalo i ke Akua, aia nā hiʻohiʻona i ka nui XL, a ʻōlelo kaʻu stylist: pēpē, ʻelima mau kilo ʻaʻole e hōʻeha iā ʻoe ...
Nā manaʻo noʻonoʻo: A pehea kou makemake i kēia ao hou?
E.G: Ua ʻōlelo pū aku kaʻu kumu kula punahele, ʻo ka nalu mua o ka hoʻomohala ʻenehana e ukali ʻia e kekahi, hohonu. Hoʻohou o ka ʻike. E koi aku ka poʻe i ka wehe ʻana mai ka poʻe kālai'āina, mai nā hōkū - kahi hoʻopau ʻana i ka leʻaleʻa kālepa, mai nā aupuni - ʻike kaiapuni. Kapa wau ia he anti-elitism - he kipi o ka lehulehu e kū'ē i ka hoʻomāinoino ʻana, ʻoiai ma ke ʻano o nā ʻono, nā canons, nā mea i ʻōlelo ʻia.
Ua nīnau au iā Cate Blanchett i kona mālama ʻana i nā mea āpau, ʻehā kāna mau keiki. A ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia me ke akamai: "Hula a aʻo i ka hula"
A i ʻole, e like me ka ʻōlelo a koʻu hoa nūpepa, i ka wā e hoʻomaikaʻi ai ka poʻe holo kaʻa i ka pailaka ma hope o ko lākou kau ʻana i ka mokulele: "Akā ʻaʻohe mea hoʻomaikaʻi iaʻu ke hoʻouna au i kahi ʻatikala he 10 huaʻōlelo." I nā kūlana hou, ua lilo ka ʻoihana i mea maʻamau, i kēia manawa ua ʻae ʻia e haʻaheo wale i nā hana ʻokoʻa, nā hōʻike o ka aneane heroism. A ʻo wau, ma ke ala, i kēia ao hou ua pau ka lilo ʻana i vegan maʻemaʻe, i kēia manawa ua loaʻa iaʻu nā mea nui, me he mea lā iaʻu, ʻoi aku ka kiʻekiʻe: pono wau e olakino a ikaika, he makuahine wau. ʻO kēia ka mea nui.
Ua hauʻoli ʻoe i ka lilo ʻana i makuahine?
E.G: ʻO kaʻoiaʻiʻo, he pohihihi nā mea a pau. ʻAʻole wau i manaʻo ʻo "like" ka huaʻōlelo kūpono ma aneʻi. Ma mua o ka hānau ʻana o Aleph, ua hopohopo nui au - ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo pehea e hoʻohui ai i ka hana me kahi keiki aʻu i makemake nui ai e noho ma laila mau, mau ... ʻo ia - pehea kāna holomua, ʻehā kāna mau keiki. A ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia me ke akamai: "Hula a e aʻo ʻoe i ka hula." A oki au i ka hopohopo.
A i ka wā i hānau ʻia ai ʻo Aleph, ʻae, ua hoʻonohonoho pono nā mea a pau - ua lilo ʻo ia i mea nui, ua haʻalele wau i ka manaʻo o kahi kahu hānai XNUMX hola - ʻaʻohe mea e kū ma waena oʻu a me ia ... hui pū ʻana o nā mea koʻikoʻi - ka meaʻai pēpē a me nā diapers me ka hōʻole ʻana iā ia iho, ka hopohopo, a me ka weliweli me ka hauʻoli. E lilo ʻoe i mea palupalu a paʻakikī - no ka mea i kēia manawa ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi mea e pale aku ai. A ʻoi aku ka ikaika, ʻoi aku ka paʻa - no ka mea i kēia manawa ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi mea e pale aku ai.
Ma Palika, inā ʻoe e holo pū me kāu keiki ma ke kahua pāʻani, ke nānā aku nei lākou iā ʻoe - ʻaʻole ʻae ʻia
He mea ʻakaʻaka, akā i kēia manawa ke nānā aku nei au i ke kanaka a manaʻo wau ma hope o nā mea a pau, ʻo kekahi kona makuahine, a e hōʻeha iā ia ke hana ʻino ʻia kāna keiki. A palupalu au i loko o nā kūlana paʻakikī. Aka, ua ano kekee ka manao o na mea. Ma hope o ʻelua mau makahiki ma Farani - ua loaʻa kaʻu kāne i kahi ʻaelike ma laila e alakaʻi i ka ballet Opera de Paris - ua hoʻi mākou i Los Angeles. A ʻike ʻoe, i ka hoʻohālikelike ʻana me Paris ... ʻakaʻaka kekahi i kaʻu keiki i loko o kahi cafe, a hauʻoli wau - he kanaka maikaʻi loa, aloha, hāmama!
A i ʻole ʻaʻohe mea like. ʻO ia wale nō ma ʻAmelika he mea maʻamau ka ʻakaʻaka i kahi pēpē, hana i kahi lewa o ka pumehana a me ka ʻae ʻana iā ia. Ma Palika, inā ʻoe e holo a puni ke kahua pāʻani me kāu keiki, nānā lākou iā ʻoe - ʻaʻole ʻae ʻia ... A ma Los Angeles, hoʻāʻo nā mea a pau e komo i kou wahi pilikino, ʻaʻohe mea e ʻimi e aʻo iā ʻoe i ko lākou ʻano maikaʻi. Ua manaʻo wau i kēia ʻokoʻa - mai Paris a Los Angeles - no ka mea he keikikāne kaʻu.
Me he mea lā iaʻu ua hoʻopaʻi ʻia ʻoe a ua ʻike pinepine ʻoe iā ʻoe iho i kahi ʻano hou no ʻoe iho e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke ʻae maʻalahi i nā ʻano maʻamau ... I ka hopena, i ka makahiki 12 ua hōkū ʻoe iā Leon ma kahi ʻāina ʻē, a laila, ua loaʻa iaʻu. lilo ʻoe i mea hana keaka kaulana, ua hoʻopau ʻoe i ke kuleana o kahi haumāna, a i loko o ke keʻena o ka psychology, mamao loa mai ka ʻoihana kiʻiʻoniʻoni ...
E.G: Akā ʻokoʻa nā loina hou a me ka ʻōlelo ʻino mai kekahi i kekahi, ʻaʻole anei?
ʻO ke kalakala?
E.G: ʻAe, ʻae, ma Paris, inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e hoʻolohe i nā ʻano kuʻuna kūloko, hiki iā ʻoe ke paʻakikī loa iā ʻoe. Aia… kekahi ʻano o ka nānā ʻana i ka etiquette. Hiki i kahi huakaʻi maʻalahi i ka hale kūʻai ke pilikia ma muli o ka "protocol" āu e hahai ai. Ke aʻo mau nei kekahi o koʻu mau hoa Parisian iaʻu i ka "kūʻai kūʻai ʻana." Akā ʻo ka mea mua, pono ʻoe e haʻi i ka mea kūʻai aku: "Bonjour!" A laila pono ʻoe e kali i 2 kekona a nīnau i kāu nīnau.
Ua kapa ʻia koʻu ex "Moscow", ʻōlelo ʻo ia: i kekahi manawa ke nānā aku nei ʻoe i waho o ka puka aniani me ke kaumaha ... ʻO ia wale nō "ʻEkolu kaikuahine" - "I Moscow! I Moscow!»
Inā ʻoe i komo i loko, nānā i nā kaula a nīnau: "Aia iā ʻoe ka 36?", ʻaʻole ʻoe, a hiki iā ʻoe ke hana ʻino. ʻAʻole lākou e noʻonoʻo e hōʻoluʻolu i ke kanaka e pili ana iā ʻoe. Manaʻo lākou e pili ana i ka protocol. Ma kēia ʻano paha e hoʻāʻo nei lākou e mālama i kā lākou moʻomeheu. Akā ua paʻakikī ia iaʻu. ʻIke ʻoe, ma Farani ua luhi loa au i nā lula. Ua hoʻopaʻi ʻia au i nā manawa a pau. I kēia manawa ua alakaʻi nui ʻia au e ka manaʻo. Makemake au e ʻoluʻolu nā mea ʻē aʻe a puni iaʻu, i ʻole e kaumaha kekahi, a pēlā wau e hana ai.
E pili ana ka hoʻonaʻauao psychology i kāu ʻano ma kekahi ʻano? Manaʻo ʻoe ua ʻoi aku kou hoʻomaopopo ʻana i nā kānaka ma mua o nā mea ʻē aʻe?
E.G: ʻAe, mālama ʻoe i nā psychologists e like me ka gurus. Makehewa nae. Me he mea lā he kanaka psychologist maoli wau - ʻo kēlā me kēia kanaka noʻu ʻaʻole ia he puke i kākau mua ʻia a paʻi ʻia i loko o kekahi paʻi, pono ʻoe e wehe a heluhelu, akā he hana kū hoʻokahi, he mea pohihihi e pono e hoʻomaopopo ʻia. .
He loea ʻoe i ka psychology keiki, kōkua anei kēia i ka pilina me kāu keiki?
E.G: Ua like mākou a pau ke ʻike mākou i kā mākou mau keiki. A nele ka poʻe āpau ma mua o kahi hana mana - e hālāwai me kēia kanaka, kāu keiki. ʻIke ʻoe, maopopo iaʻu he kupuna wahine maikaʻi wau. ʻO ia ka manawa - me ka ʻike o ka makuahine a me ka ʻike o ka psychology - e hoʻomaʻemaʻe wau. A i kēia manawa ʻaʻole lawa ka mamao ma waena o kāua - ʻoi loa wau iā Aleph.
Akā ʻo ka luna hoʻokele pono e lilo i mea psychologist. Ma ka hana ma ka "The Tale of Love and Darkness" ʻaʻole pono ka diploma. Eia kekahi, ua loaʻa i kāu heroine i kahi maʻi pilikino ... Ma ke ala, ʻo ka luna hoʻokele mua, nāna hoʻi i hoʻoholo e pāʻani i ka hana nui ma kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni ponoʻī, he kanaka koa.
E.G: I koʻu hihia, ʻaʻole loa, ʻaʻole koa a ʻaʻole hana kūikawā. A ʻo ka psychology ma ʻaneʻi, ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole ma waho o kahi. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua pana wau i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma ʻIseraʻela a e pili ana i ka ʻIseraʻela. ma ka olelo Hebera. E pili ana i ke aloha, ka pilina pili ʻole ma waena o ke keiki kāne a me kona makuahine i ke kua o ka hoʻokumu ʻana o ka mokuʻāina o ʻIseraʻela. He kiʻiʻoniʻoni kēia e pili ana i ka ulu ʻana o ka ʻāina a me ke kanaka. A ua hoʻokumu ʻia i ka moʻolelo autobiographical o ka mea nui, me ka ʻole o ka hoʻonui ʻana, ʻo Amos Oz nui.
No ka lewa o ka Iseraela na mea a pau. A ʻo ʻIseraʻela koʻu ʻāina. Ua hānau ʻia au ma laila, no laila koʻu ʻohana, ʻōlelo mākou i ka Hebera i kekahi manawa ma ka hale o koʻu mau mākua, a ikaika loa ka hoʻoilina Iudaio i loko o ko mākou ʻohana ... «A Tale of Love and Darkness» ʻo kaʻu kiʻiʻoniʻoni piha, ʻaʻohe mea hiki ke pāʻani. keia kuleana ma ia mea, koe wale no au. E lawe wale ia i ka manaʻo o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni noʻu, ka manaʻo pilikino aʻu i hoʻokomo ai. No ka mea, iaʻu he ala ia e hōʻike ai i koʻu aloha i ka ʻāina a wehewehe i koʻu ʻano.
Ua ʻike ʻoe, ʻo koʻu mau hoa ʻAmelika a pau i ko lākou wā ʻōpio ma kekahi ʻano a i ʻole kekahi i nīnau i kēia nīnau - ʻo wai wau? He aha wau? Akā iaʻu, ʻaʻohe nīnau penei: He Iudaio wau, he Iudaio a me ka ʻIseraʻela. Ke ʻōlelo ʻoe, "No ka ʻIseraʻela wau," hoʻomaka ka poʻe i kahi kamaʻilio 10-hola e pili ana i ka politika i kēia manawa ma ia ala. Akā noʻu, ʻaʻohe politika ma ʻaneʻi, no ka ʻIseraʻela wale nō wau, mai kahi ʻāina ʻo ia, aia ma ke alo o nā kaʻina civilizational, akā no ka ʻIseraʻela wale nō wau. A no ka ʻIseraʻela au no ʻAmelika.
He aha ke ʻano o ka ʻIseraʻela iā ʻoe?
E.G: ʻO ia… I koʻu ʻike mua ʻana i ka Buddhism, ua pilikia au. ʻO ka Buddhism e pili ana i ka mahalo i kāu mea a me kou wahi i kēia manawa. A ua like wau me ka Iudaism a pau, ʻo ia ... ʻo ia ka mea i pili pū me ka makemake i nā mea ʻaʻole i loaʻa iā ʻoe. Ma ka aina i kipakuia'i ka poe Iudaio. A ʻo kēia hoʻokaʻawale ʻana o kā mākou "Next year in Jerusalem" he mea ʻē, me he mea lā ʻaʻole no ka poʻe Iudaio ʻo Ierusalema.
ʻO ka ʻōlelo ponoʻī no mākou: ua kūkulu ʻia ʻo ʻIseraʻela i loko o kā mākou hoʻomana ma ke ʻano he mea ʻole iā mākou. Akā ua loaʻa iā mākou, ua loaʻa hou ka ʻāina hānau. A aia mau ka ʻiʻini ... A loaʻa iaʻu - melancholy. I kekahi manawa e hōʻike ʻia. ʻOiai… loaʻa iaʻu nā aʻa ʻEulopa Hikina, a he nui i loko o kā mākou moʻomeheu ʻohana, a ma koʻu ʻano - mai laila. Mai Rusia paha, kahi i hele mai ai koʻu kupuna wahine.
He aha, no ka laʻana?
E.G: ʻAe, kēlā melancholy. Ua manaʻo kekahi o kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻaʻole ia he Iudaio, akā ʻo Rūsia. Ua kapa ʻo ia iaʻu ʻo "Moscow". A ʻōlelo ʻo ia: ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike, akā ʻo ke ʻano āu e hauʻoli ai i kekahi manawa a nānā i waho o ka puka makani me ke kaumaha ... ʻO ia wale nō "ʻEkolu mau kaikuahine" - "I Moscow! I Moscow!» Ua noi mai ʻo ia iaʻu e hoʻōki i ka "Muscovite". ʻO Slavic romantic spleen - ʻo ia ka mea i kapa ʻia e Oz i kēia mokuʻāina. Akā ke manaʻo nei mākou i nā hana mana.
A ʻo ʻoe, me he mea lā, ʻaʻohe mea e kali ai - ua nani kou ola.
E.G: ʻOiaʻiʻo, Laki loa wau: Ua loaʻa iaʻu nā hana mana he nui. Eia naʻe, inā manaʻo ʻoe pili lākou i ka ʻoihana a kaulana paha, ua hewa ʻoe. Ua halawai au me kekahi kanaka kupanaha — Amos Oz. Manamana. Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻolilo i ka manawa nui ma ka home. Hoʻonohonoho mākou i kā mākou hana ponoʻī - i ka Pōʻalima e hele mai kahi kaʻa i ko mākou hale no ka ʻōpala, a aia wau ma ka home i ka Pōʻalima. Manamana. I ka hopena pule, hui mākou me nā hoaaloha a me kā lākou mau keiki. Kokoke i kēlā me kēia pule pule. Manamana. Ma mua o ka hiki ʻana mai i ʻaneʻi, e hele wāwae ana māua ʻo Aleph i ka paka, a ʻike ʻo ia i kahi lapeti. A ʻike wau i kona mau maka. He hana mana maoli nō ia. 'A'ole e like me ka lapeti i holo aku mai Aleph ma ka mama o ka ipu lele, 'o ka'u mau hana mana he… kaa.